When is Christmas?

 

ChristmastreeCharlie and Billy are ready, guarding the tree and presents, and each with one of their own to open.

Christmas Day greetings to everyone from me, Jo, and the Wenches.

Are you wondering about the title of this blog? It comes from a snippet I picked up on line.

I went to Wikipedia to check a Yule detail and found this quote.
"About AD 730, the English historian Bede wrote "They began the year with
December 25, the day some now celebrate as Christmas; " Bede

We know that the placement of Christ's birth round about the winter solstice was arbitrary, but I thought it was fixed around the winter solstice earlier than that. I wonder what other days were in use at the time.

"Happy Christmas!"
"What? That's in May. Who'd be traipsing around to pay tax in t'middle of
winter?"
"Well it's different over in the Holy Land, isn't it? Hot over there."
"Then it should be in a hot month here, shouldn't it? Perhaps the neighbours
are right, having it in July. Not that you can always depend on hot in
July…."
"Too much to do in the fields then, and what'd be the point of mince pies, when there's fresh fruit to eat? Better to have it in a quieter time like now, I say. Well, have to be off to wassail someone else. Happy Christmas!"

I haven'tAscansm done any research, so if you're looking for something diverting to do, see what you can discover about exactly when Christmas became fixed on December 25th.

When you have some time, I've put up a Christmas newsletter here.

It includes a link to the first excerpt from A Scandalous Countess, which will be out in February, which really isn't that far away!

May your day be merry and bright!

Jo

 

30 thoughts on “When is Christmas?”

  1. Christ was born about the beginning of October…. he was 33 1/2 when he died in the beginning of April… you do the math 🙂
    As to why the 25th Dec was chosen was because Constantine was trying to make a state religion to help control his vast empire. He decided that Christianity could do that… but it needed some tweaking so that all the pagans in his realm would agree. So that’s how the revelry of the roman holiday of saturnalia that took place around the 25th Dec became labelled Christ’s birthday. And all the traditions of Christmas have nothing to do with Christianity but pagan rites worldwide. Decorating the tree and gift giving dates back to Baal worship in Babylon if memory serves me correctly. All holidays have thier origins in pagan rites and worship. Thats why I choose not to celebrate them.

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  2. Christ was born about the beginning of October…. he was 33 1/2 when he died in the beginning of April… you do the math 🙂
    As to why the 25th Dec was chosen was because Constantine was trying to make a state religion to help control his vast empire. He decided that Christianity could do that… but it needed some tweaking so that all the pagans in his realm would agree. So that’s how the revelry of the roman holiday of saturnalia that took place around the 25th Dec became labelled Christ’s birthday. And all the traditions of Christmas have nothing to do with Christianity but pagan rites worldwide. Decorating the tree and gift giving dates back to Baal worship in Babylon if memory serves me correctly. All holidays have thier origins in pagan rites and worship. Thats why I choose not to celebrate them.

    Reply
  3. Christ was born about the beginning of October…. he was 33 1/2 when he died in the beginning of April… you do the math 🙂
    As to why the 25th Dec was chosen was because Constantine was trying to make a state religion to help control his vast empire. He decided that Christianity could do that… but it needed some tweaking so that all the pagans in his realm would agree. So that’s how the revelry of the roman holiday of saturnalia that took place around the 25th Dec became labelled Christ’s birthday. And all the traditions of Christmas have nothing to do with Christianity but pagan rites worldwide. Decorating the tree and gift giving dates back to Baal worship in Babylon if memory serves me correctly. All holidays have thier origins in pagan rites and worship. Thats why I choose not to celebrate them.

    Reply
  4. Christ was born about the beginning of October…. he was 33 1/2 when he died in the beginning of April… you do the math 🙂
    As to why the 25th Dec was chosen was because Constantine was trying to make a state religion to help control his vast empire. He decided that Christianity could do that… but it needed some tweaking so that all the pagans in his realm would agree. So that’s how the revelry of the roman holiday of saturnalia that took place around the 25th Dec became labelled Christ’s birthday. And all the traditions of Christmas have nothing to do with Christianity but pagan rites worldwide. Decorating the tree and gift giving dates back to Baal worship in Babylon if memory serves me correctly. All holidays have thier origins in pagan rites and worship. Thats why I choose not to celebrate them.

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  5. Christ was born about the beginning of October…. he was 33 1/2 when he died in the beginning of April… you do the math 🙂
    As to why the 25th Dec was chosen was because Constantine was trying to make a state religion to help control his vast empire. He decided that Christianity could do that… but it needed some tweaking so that all the pagans in his realm would agree. So that’s how the revelry of the roman holiday of saturnalia that took place around the 25th Dec became labelled Christ’s birthday. And all the traditions of Christmas have nothing to do with Christianity but pagan rites worldwide. Decorating the tree and gift giving dates back to Baal worship in Babylon if memory serves me correctly. All holidays have thier origins in pagan rites and worship. Thats why I choose not to celebrate them.

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  6. I’ve heard the Christmas = Saturnalia = Party! equation before, and it makes sense.
    Plus, celebrations of the winter solstice–the return of the sun and light and warmth after darkest, longest night, and that makes sense, too. These various reasons aren’t mutually exclusive.
    Happy holidays to one and all!

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  7. I’ve heard the Christmas = Saturnalia = Party! equation before, and it makes sense.
    Plus, celebrations of the winter solstice–the return of the sun and light and warmth after darkest, longest night, and that makes sense, too. These various reasons aren’t mutually exclusive.
    Happy holidays to one and all!

    Reply
  8. I’ve heard the Christmas = Saturnalia = Party! equation before, and it makes sense.
    Plus, celebrations of the winter solstice–the return of the sun and light and warmth after darkest, longest night, and that makes sense, too. These various reasons aren’t mutually exclusive.
    Happy holidays to one and all!

    Reply
  9. I’ve heard the Christmas = Saturnalia = Party! equation before, and it makes sense.
    Plus, celebrations of the winter solstice–the return of the sun and light and warmth after darkest, longest night, and that makes sense, too. These various reasons aren’t mutually exclusive.
    Happy holidays to one and all!

    Reply
  10. I’ve heard the Christmas = Saturnalia = Party! equation before, and it makes sense.
    Plus, celebrations of the winter solstice–the return of the sun and light and warmth after darkest, longest night, and that makes sense, too. These various reasons aren’t mutually exclusive.
    Happy holidays to one and all!

    Reply
  11. Mariah, where does it say Christ was 33 1/2? I’m not aware of the detail there.
    It’s certainly true that most traditions are to do with winter and the light, but I find that very natural, and a nice mesh with Jesus, Light of the World.
    Cheers,
    Jo

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  12. Mariah, where does it say Christ was 33 1/2? I’m not aware of the detail there.
    It’s certainly true that most traditions are to do with winter and the light, but I find that very natural, and a nice mesh with Jesus, Light of the World.
    Cheers,
    Jo

    Reply
  13. Mariah, where does it say Christ was 33 1/2? I’m not aware of the detail there.
    It’s certainly true that most traditions are to do with winter and the light, but I find that very natural, and a nice mesh with Jesus, Light of the World.
    Cheers,
    Jo

    Reply
  14. Mariah, where does it say Christ was 33 1/2? I’m not aware of the detail there.
    It’s certainly true that most traditions are to do with winter and the light, but I find that very natural, and a nice mesh with Jesus, Light of the World.
    Cheers,
    Jo

    Reply
  15. Mariah, where does it say Christ was 33 1/2? I’m not aware of the detail there.
    It’s certainly true that most traditions are to do with winter and the light, but I find that very natural, and a nice mesh with Jesus, Light of the World.
    Cheers,
    Jo

    Reply
  16. Happy Christmas, everyone. Thanks for another year of fine reading, lively discussion, book recommendations and friendship.
    It’s a pleasure to be part of this community.
    all the best
    Anne

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  17. Happy Christmas, everyone. Thanks for another year of fine reading, lively discussion, book recommendations and friendship.
    It’s a pleasure to be part of this community.
    all the best
    Anne

    Reply
  18. Happy Christmas, everyone. Thanks for another year of fine reading, lively discussion, book recommendations and friendship.
    It’s a pleasure to be part of this community.
    all the best
    Anne

    Reply
  19. Happy Christmas, everyone. Thanks for another year of fine reading, lively discussion, book recommendations and friendship.
    It’s a pleasure to be part of this community.
    all the best
    Anne

    Reply
  20. Happy Christmas, everyone. Thanks for another year of fine reading, lively discussion, book recommendations and friendship.
    It’s a pleasure to be part of this community.
    all the best
    Anne

    Reply

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